The P-515 model is really meant for the home but can be used in a variety of venues and places. Generally speaking the P-515 is for someone who mainly wants to play piano, although it does have a lot of “bells & whistles” on it that can make it fun to play as well. This model is considered to be affordable at $1599 internet price (stand & triple pedal optional), especially as compared to other portable digital pianos over $2000. The P-515 has been out for about 5 years. The P-515 does a lot of things including being an overall impressive instrument whether you’re a beginner or an advanced player and has a number of upgrades in it over the previous model including a different key action, improved piano sound engine, new pedaling and pedal response, upgraded operating system, new features, and more. It even has a redesigned look to it, new cabinet materials, and new user interface…almost all good improvements over the previous model, and this P-515 is at a reasonable $1599 price.
This newer piano sound chip in the P-515, which was not in previous models, offers two new grand piano sound samples from the top Yamaha acoustic grand called CFX and also from the top European Bosendorfer grand piano called the Imperial. Yamaha included the piano sound from the Bosendorefer because not only is it a very pleasing and rich European grand piano tone, but it just so happens that Yamaha purchased the Bosendorfer piano company (originally headquartered in Vienna, Austria, Vienna) a number of years ago so that name now belongs to Yamaha and is not their competition anymore. That’s the way to do it…buy up other great companies and have them for yourself. I am not sure it was a good move for Yamaha to do that or not because those Bosendorfer grand pianos costs big bucks, but it sure comes in handy to be able to get that type of piano sound on some of the Yamaha digital pianos.
When it comes to the actual tone on Yamaha acoustic grand pianos, the Yamaha CFX piano tone is bright and clear and many players like that sound, especially for pop music.For me, this CFX sampled sound in the P-515 is great to play…but sometimes a bit too harsh as compared to wanting a richer and less brassy piano tone. I have played hundreds of Yamaha acoustic grand pianos and lots of pop music piano players like to play Yamaha and those pianos do have bright clear tone as I previously mentioned. You can reduce the brightness and brassiness of the CFX tone in the P-515 with the editing controls so that you can get that sound to be more mellow, but it’s nevertheless a brighter piano sound than most other brands.
When reducing the brightness of the CFX sound those editing controls can effect the sound of other instrument tones in the piano so it just depends on what you want. But overall I like the CFX stereo piano sound. One thing is for sure, if you are playing along with other live instruments and maybe even a vocalist, the brightness of the CFX piano sound will “cut through” the rest of those instruments and singers to be more easily heard and many pro players do like that aspect of the Yamaha piano sound.
But when you play the Bosendorfer sound through the internal speaker system of the P515, it sounds great…full, rich, alive in full stereo…but not so through headphones.This was a big let-down to me since I tend to use headphones quite a bit for practicing. However, there is a feature in the headphone sound setup within the P515 menu which allows you to turn off the binaural “effect” and when you do that the Bosendorfer piano sound through headphones is much better and more realistic and I can live with that. However, when you turn off the binaural effect to get a better headphone experience with the Bosendorfer sound then you lose the binaural effect on the Yamaha CFX sound and so you need to turn that effect back on to get the full benefit of hearing the Yamaha CFX piano sound through headphones.
I am not sure why Yamaha did not include the other acoustic pianos sounds (particularly the Bosendorfer sound – my favorite) in the Binaural stereo sound environment of the P-515, but they didn’t. You need to juggle back & forth in the piano menu display to get the better settings as I just described. Yamaha could have done a lot better when it comes to listening to the Bosendorfer piano sound and the other acoustic piano variations through stereo headphones.
offering a huge range of tonal dynamics for mellow to bright and everywhere in-between. This is not the “cheaper” tone of the previous models but a noticeable upgrade to the authenticity and natural sound when playing piano. It just sounds more alive and resonate than ever before. But it is important to remember that the overall character of the CFX piano sound is still bright, clear, and a bit brassy (sometimes) so if you like that type of piano sound then you’ll really like the CFX piano sound. The Bosendorfer sound is the one I like more and I believe it is the favorite of the majority of people who have played the P-515 and/or heard the two piano sound samples.
Of the 9 acoustic piano sounds in this model, the next piano sound I really like besides the Yamaha CFX and Bosendorfer sounds is the “ballad” piano. The other acoustic piano sounds generally are a bit bright for me, but can be useful depending on the type of music your are playing and depending on what playing environment you’re in, you may like them. But overall, I would be primarily using the Bosendorfer piano sound and CFX piano sample and then editing them to make my own variations which for me would then turn into additional piano sounds that I would also enjoy playing.
Speaking of editing or adjusting the piano sound, Yamaha has designed a clever and quick way to do that directly from the control panel with a button called “Piano Room.” When you press the Piano Room button then in the LCD display screen you will see the first setting in the Piano Room is called “Lid Position,” and you’ll see a virtual piano picture with an adjustable lid position and you can set that lid with the navigation buttons on the control panel to “full, half, or closed” position and when you do that then the sound goes from fuller & brighter to mellower & muted. The next Piano Room setting is called “Brightness” and this setting adjusts the over brightness or mellowness of the piano up or down from 0 – 10 so there is a wide range and it does have a noticeable impact on the overall piano sound as does the Lid Position.
The next setting is called “Touch” and that function allows you to adjust the touch sensitive velocity “touch curve” with 5 different levels of key touch sensitivity from very light to very hard and that setting also has a big impact of the overall sound of the P515 and the quickness in which the piano sound comes in. However when you make an adjustment and change a level of touch, that also changes the brightness or mellowness level of the sound, but that’s true on all digital pianos with this feature.
The P-515 technology has taken care of these past issues and now the sustain time, sustain volume, and sustained tone are very impressive and very natural across the keyboard.Using the new piano sound chip with the 256-note polyphony power and better sound samples, the piano sound, particularly the Bosendorfer piano sound, is quite pleasing to the ear and the piano sound is much better than in the past, especially when using the sustain half-damper pedal with all those sustained piano sound nuances.
So as far as I am concerned this escapement feature has little impact one way or the other on your piano playing. The letter “X” in NWX stands for the “escapement” (aka: let-off) in the key action.But there is one major caveat to this key action (both black & white keys) and one that a person might not expect, and that is the keys are unusually heavy (firm) to press down with the fingers.
In other words, when you are playing your music on the P515, the keys take a lot of extra effort (force) to press down, especially as compared to a good acoustic upright or grand piano or any of the other self-contained portable digital pianos out there including Roland, Korg, Casio, Kawai, and a few others. I am not saying that this NWX key action is unplayable because it is definitely playable for some people. But at least for me and many people I know who play well, I am definitely not a fan of the way the key action feels/moves in the P515.
There is a certain amount of force needed for the key to (begin) to press down and a certain amount of force (resistance) when the key is coming back up against your fingers. This force or weight is measurable and done in grams. In fact, qualified piano technicians are able to set up an acoustic grand or upright piano action to perform at proper standards by adjusting the key weight going down and coming back up. The keys themselves have no weight or resistance in them because they are (by themselves out of the piano) very light…they are just plastic and light wood material. It’s the added weight inside the keys or attached to the key action that gives the keys their “weight” or firmness.
which makes the sound come in more or less quickly depending on how hard or fast you play the keys. Although the electronic adjustment does help a bit in adjusting key action sound response when pressing down the keys lightly, this does nothing to adjust the actual physical weight of the keys going down or coming up.
I’m still OK with that down weight coming closer to under 75 grams for static key touch force going down and approx 40 to 45 grams going up…at least that’s the maximum limit I would recommend where your hands and fingers don’t start feeling fatigued and tired over a relatively short period of playing time. Playing the piano should be an enjoyable, comfortable experience and the key action is the main thing that will allow for you to have that experience…although piano tone and pedaling are also obviously important as well.
Also, when you change the touch sensitivity curve from medium to light or lighter this also slightly changes the tonal dynamics of the piano sound when playing softer because the piano sound automatically comes in initially somewhat brighter in tone…that’s just the way it works. So when you change touch sensitivity curve it is also changing the piano tone as well and boosting brightness artificially along with the piano sound coming in more quickly than normal because the touch is set to “light” or even “lighter.” When you experience this for yourself you will know better what I am talking about.
The rest of them are noticeably brighter. There are 7 electric piano sounds including vintage tones from the Wurlitzer electric, Rhodes, and DX7 among others and they’re all quite good and usable whether playing them individually or layered with other instrument sounds. There are 6 organ tones including pop, jazz, and pipe organs and all are very good along with a couple of very nice harpsichords, vibes, and clavichord. String and choir sounds are always popular and Yamaha has 2 each along with 3 “pad” (synth) tones which are very good for sustained fill-in sounds (as long as you hold down keys) played separately or layered with pianos…and they are impressive. There are different types of bass tones used when splitting the keyboard into separate left & part hand parts.
However, this Yamaha XG sound library is something that Yamaha has had for many years in a number of their digital pianos and it’s a mixed bag of sounds with some of them being quite good, others average, and still others are poor (fake) in terms of reproducing the actual instrument sound. It just depends on what sound you need and how you’ll be using it.
XG sounds areparticularly useful and important when playing back General MIDI song files from a USB flashdrive when needing instruments like trumpets, marimbas, flutes, special effects and other tones which I will talk about more later. I am the kind of person who likes to experiment with mixing two instrument sounds together in a layer or even a split as well as combine tones in ways that make music more interesting. With all the XG instrument sounds and the 40 main sampled instrument tones, there are literally thousands of tonal combination possibilities. But for now you just need to know that the most important sounds in the P515 are the 40 instrument sounds I previously mentioned and the ability to quickly layer or split them depending on how you want to use those sounds.
I wish Yamaha had designed the P-515 NWX key action in this model to be much lighter than it is so the playing experience, especially when using non-acoustic pianos sounds, would be more realistic and enjoyable to play since getting expression out of those instruments is otherwise a lot more difficult to do, particularly when playing the keys more softly and gently.
This is true if you just play one of those sounds at a time such as pipe organ or choir. As long as you hold down the sustain pedal then that organ or choir sound will continue to play on those notes, until you release the sustain pedal. It works well that way on Roland, Kawai, Casio, Korg, and other brands of digital pianos…but not on Yamaha.
If Yamaha at least provided the option to have the sustain pedal trigger continuous sustain for the other sustaining type sounds, then that would fix the issue. Kawai provides that option so I know it can be done, but Yamaha does not. When I am spending $1500 on a digital piano I don’t want these kinds of irritations and this certainly is one…at least it is for me. If the other brands can do it then certainly Yamaha could…but they have chosen not to and that’s a bad decision as far as I am concerned.
When you sustain that tone for longer than 1 second while holding down the keys you definitely hear that artificial looped movement and unfortunately it sounds fake, especially the strings, choir, pads, etc.To me that is disappointing because the initial sound sample themselves of the organs, choirs, strings, pads, synths, and other continuous tones are impressive and sound real in terms of the instrument itself. But once you get that sustained fast loop going and hear it while playing a song and holding keys down for more than a second or two,, then it can be a big distraction and you almost don’t want to use those sounds if they need to be sustained. Since Yamaha does not have continuous “pedal” sustain/hold for those sounds then that actually reduces the chance you’ll hear those repetitious loops that occur in those sounds.
Perhaps that’s why Yamaha did it that way…so you don’t as easily hear the extremely short loop points on those sustaining tones such as the choirs, strings, organs, pads, etc. It’s too bad because as I mentioned, those instrument sounds are impressive but in reality are not very usable when sustaining them, which is what many people want to do with them. Once you start hearing those repetitious loops on those instruments then that’s what you tend to focus on and it’s a big distraction, at least it is for me. Sampled loops are normally found on most digital pianos but the ones on the P-515 are noticeable and annoying and for $1599 Yamaha should have done a lot better. There are a couple of other companies with sampling/physical modeling technology that don’t have noticeable loops on their sounds but Yamaha is only using that technology on their piano sounds, but not the others it seems.
I have a couple more concerns that I was surprised to find in this new model. Most portable digital pianos, especially in this price range, have the ability to add special effects to the instrument sound so it can be more realistic and organic and enable you to add things to the sound that can make your playing experience more enjoyable. To that end Yamaha has 3 very cool effects features called reverb (common in most digital pianos), Sound Boost (instant extra clarity and sharpness), and preset and programmable EQ (the ability to enhance the overall sound with boosting or reducing certain sound frequencies. All 3 of
these features do a very good job of allowing you to “tweak” the overall sound coming through the speakers or through headphones and I enjoy applying those effects.
press the reverb button then that button brings you to a reverb menu in the LCD user display screen. In this mode you can set what type of reverb setting you want or you can scroll to an “off” setting and turn off the reverb from there, but again, there is no instant on/off reverb button from the panel. You can also press the “Piano Room” button on the control panel and scroll down to the Reverb type and also reverb amount. You can select changes in those functions within the Piano Room such as the amount of
reverb depth you will
get for the particular reverb setting you previously selected (such as room, plate, concert, cathedral, etc), so that is a good thing.
You can also turn the reverb off from the piano room in scrolling to the “off button ” within the reverb settings there. However, as soon as you leave the Piano Room and go to another button/function, when you go back into the Piano Room to make another reverb adjustment or any other adjustment, the Piano Room functions start at the beginning again and you have to scroll back down to find reverb & reverb adjustments or other adjustments you want to do. That’s definitely not an efficient or intuitive operating system but maybe Yamaha will come up with a fix for this in the future. The reverb tones themselves sound great…it’s just accessing them quickly that is not great in the P515.
The Sound Boost and EQ settings are great features to have on the P-515 and especially useful for pro players who like to “dial in” their sound. But unfortunately these to functions are also not especially “user friendly” in terms of controlling them and those functions are important to the overall sound. You can access both of those features from one panel button labeled “Sound Boost/EQ. means that neither function has its own button on/off button from the panel. When you press sound boost button then it first takes you into the “Sound Boost” LCD menu and then you have to find the Sound Boost setting you most prefer, turn it on or off from there and then select the specific Sound Boost setting. With the EQ feature, EQ editing can be useful and definitely help with overall sound output quality and frequency range depending on your ears and what you like to hear.
You can edit EQ in a number of ways including setting up your own custom EQ by changing the “user” 3 band EQ intensity which is accessed through the LCD display screen and changing the setting using the arrow navigation on the control panel to the right of the LCD screen. But again, the panel “Sound Boost/EQ” button does not turn those settings on or off and it is a separate feature from the Sound Boost function and yet they are on the same button with no main on/off button for each one. It is interesting to note that there is a button next to the Sound Boost/EQ button called “dual/split.” That button is dedicated to activating and changing the instrument layer combinations along with activating and changing the split sound mode.
It’s just that Yamaha, in my opinion, did not keep its eye on the ball to deliver a great new digital piano across the board. This piano has so much potential because if has so many cool features including 40 built-in drum rhythm patterns that sound great with very realistic percussion along with automatic bass lines depending on what chords you are playing.
I would give them a grade of “C’ on this one. It would have been a grade of “D” but at least they have “some type” of backing track system instead of nothing…so it’s definitely better than models without this feature and this kind of thing can be used for practicing some tunes, recording songs with rhythm backing tracks, having a little fun, and keeping the beat in real time other than using the metronome.
The GM songs will only sound as good as the quality of the GM/XG instrument sounds built into the digital piano so in the case of the P-515 those sounds work well when the P515 is playing those types of files. In other words, if you play a popular jazz song, movie theme, and other type of music, even though it’s not the actual song CD/MP3 file recording of it, the General MIDI multi-track version is pretty good and can sound fairly real…depending on the song and the instruments you are hearing. So if I am playing the them from Star Wars, a jazz piece from Count Basie, A Disney song from Beauty & the Beast, a rock tune from Toto, or a orchestrated classical piece such as Beethoven’s 5th symphony, the XG General MIDI sound Library works good and sounds good and you can have a lot of fun playing along with the songs on the P515 to better learn how they go or even just to sing with or play along with other instruments.
Personally I enjoy using MIDI song files, especially when wanting to sing along because I can easily transpose them into my vocal range or slow them down, and it’s very difficult to do that with audio files in digital pianos. To use MIDI files you simply connect a USB flashdrive containing your song files to the P515 USB device slot on the front of the piano control panel. From there you you access your songs from the front control panel by pressing the song button. Once you’ve pressed the button then you enter into the song menu and look for USB songs and press the navigation button on the control panel. Once you see the words “MUSICDAT” then you enter that function and your list of songs in the flashdrive will appear and you can play them from there.
This means that when I am connecting with my favorite controller app, music app, music library (such as iTunes), or piano educational app, if that app has music in it then I hear that music automatically coming through the P-515 speaker system without the need for an audio cable connection…the audio portion of the app is transmitted through the USB cable coming back into the P-515. So a regular A to B USB cable can provide 2-way MIDI/Audio communication because the P-515 has audio streaming which is not the case with other brands…and that’s pretty cool.
Also, Yamaha has provided an stereo audio input so that you can connect audio devices (computers, iPods, etc) to the P-515 and hear those devices through the internal speaker system of the P-515. This is very useful for people who have audio devices that don’t have Bluetooth audio connectivity or don’t have a USB connection. There’s also a single sustain pedal connection along with a proprietary connector for the option triple pedal unit that will attach to the P-515 optional stand. On the left front corner of the piano below the keys are two 1/4″ stereo headphone jacks to plug in up to 2 pair of stereo headphones for private practice or to use in the duo mode for 2 people playing at the same time. The P515 internal headphone amps have very good power output and provide plenty of volume for headphones. For a piano like this one it’s always better to invest in a higher quality pair of stereo headphones so the piano sound quality and bass response comes out better and more naturally…you’ll be glad you did.
When you are in the Piano Room then on the first screen is a picture of a Yamaha grand piano and that’s the sound you would get for the P515. You can touch the picture and swipe it and then the next picture is of the Bosendorfer grand piano and the pianowill automatically activate that Bosendorfer grand piano sound, and so on. There are 2 more piano settings in the Piano Room along with ability to change the background scene which provides different Reverb effects settings such as Concert Reverb, Chamber Reverb, Cathedral Reverb, and so on. When you want to explore more sounds and effects, etc you would go into the operational function of the Smart Pianist which allows you to bring up the categories of all 40 instrument sounds including all 480 XG instrument sounds. You choose the category, select the sound from the sound list by touching the sound you want and then the
If you want to layer/mix another instrument sound with that one then you select a 2nd sound from the sound list and an instrument picture of that sound will appear on the main screen as sound #2. If you want a separate left-hand sound for a “split” sound function then you touch the “split title” on the main page and a picture of a bass sound sill appear and if you want to change that sound you just touch the picture and it will take you to all of the instrument sound categories where you can choose another sound by touching it and then that will be your split sound. Once you set up your sounds on the main page then you can turn them on or off whenever you want just by tapping the picture button and that sound will disappear and turn off. The way I am describing this system to you may or may not sound easy but in reality a 3 year old or 93 year old person can do this without prior experience after just a couple tries.
This allows you to save a “set-up” which includes all sounds, key change, reverb & EFX settings, and other functions so that you just go the the “Registration” page where you saved those setups and then you touch the one you want and it instantly activates that “registration memory” and you instantly have what you want without having to recreate it manually every-time you want it. Pretty much all the important functions that I previously mentioned which are in the P515 can be controlled from your iPad with the Smart Pianist app. This includes recording functions, metronome, drum rhythms & bass lines, touch curve, transpose, piano elements, etc. There are some things the app does not control but it does a very good job overall and as I just mentioned, it does things the piano itself does not do on its own including having a live 5-part digital volume (touch) mixer.
If it’s a regular MIDI song file from the classical music books in the piano then the sheet music will also be displayed in the app on your iPad so you can see the notes and play along as well as control tempo, key, volume and parts of the song that are playing back. You can isolate the left hand from the hand part which is very cool as well. The app also allows you to load songs from your iTune library so that you can listen and play along as well as even change the key or tempo to some degree and the songs from your MP3 files will also display accompaniment chords in a chord chart and the chords will be seen in a linear fashion as the song is playing so that you know what chords are in the song by instantly seeing them in the Smart Pianist chord chart. I have tries this many times and although it works well, it doesn’t always work for all songs or does not display the chords and chord changes correctly depending on the song. But overall it’s a great learning and fun music tool if you have iTunes.
The reason this annoys me is because (as an example) if I have a setting on the app like using certain instrument sounds and at the same time I am playing a song on the app and playing along with the song following the virtual sheet music in the app and I want to change my instrument sound setting to something else. The way I would need to do that is to go out of the sheet music page to get to my instrument sounds and press 8 button pushes to eventually get to my sounds to select them and then back into my sheet music…no one is going to do that…takes much too long and you lose the music.
using the app is that the app can not control or give access to General MIDI song files that are on your USB flash drive so that you cannot play or activate the flashdrive songs from the piano and there is no way to use it through the app. The app will not display the songs on the flashdrive and/or give you control over it so to do that you would need to disconnect the tablet from the piano and take out the cable. Obviously this Yamaha app is not “perfect” (what app is ever perfect?) but it’s very good and quite useful in many ways. I will say that having the app and the piano control panel/display screen work simultaneously must not be “rocket science” because Casio’s proprietary new controller app for iPad & Android called “Chordana Play for Piano,” works simultaneously with its piano control panel on new portable pro models called PXS series, and in a lower price range.
The optional stand and triple pedal unit are also nicely designed and work well if you want the P515 to be more like a piano. The dimensions of the P-515 are 53″ x 6″ x 15″ deep with the weight coming in at 48.5 lbs not including optional stand, pedals, case, etc.
However, I do have a number of piano player and piano teacher friends who are excellent musicians and have had a chance to try out this P-515 and many of them thought the key action was noticeably heavy compared to what they were used to playing on their acoustic pianos which include Steinway, Yamaha, and Kawai grand pianos along with a few assorted upright/console acoustic pianos. When playing lightly and wanting to press on the keys more easily is where the extra down-weight is more noticeable and could become fatiguing after playing for a while and also more difficult to play in general for younger children or those people with weaker hand & finger muscles. But aside from the key action issues (which are important), the rest of the piano (minus the shortcomings I have talked about) is impressive and might be the perfect digital piano choice for you.
If you want more info on new digital pianos and LOWER PRICES than internet discounts, please email me at tim@azpianowholesale.com or call direct at 602-571-1864.
Thankyou for your review which was very helpful. I was interested in purchasing the Yamaha P 515, but after listening to many videos on the P515, I have found that there were some things that I did not like. I have a Yamaha Pro 9000 which I bought many years ago which I have enjoyed but would now like to purchase a similar keyboard with soft keys and I wonder if you would be able to help me. I have heard many different keyboards on the Internet but would dearly love your advice. Cost around $2000 76- 88 keys. I live in Melbourne Australia.
Hopefully I will hear from you, Thankyou, Margaret Bethune.
Interesting had a world renowned piano player and musician who found this instrument outstanding, especially the key action being weighted closely to a real piano….So….
Thanks Tim for your thorough review.
Which setting is the "lightest"…Soft 1 or Soft 2?
I couldnt find the answer in the manual.thanks.
Soft #2
Impressive! No stone left un-turned. Thank you for a most comprehensive review. I needed this.
Lucien
What makes me want the Yamaha is the Smart Pianist App. I have over $1000 invested in iTunes music. I'm a jazz player and use chord progressions extensively in playing and improvising. An App that gives me the chords in a song, will speed up or slow down the song, transpose it etc. is invaluable. As far as I know the apps for other pianos don't do this. Also, being able to record a song onto a thumb drive and transfer it to a computer and a CD is also invaluable. Although touch and tone are important I find that most reviewers spend a huge amount of time on these and very little on connectivity and apps. For me (I've been playing all of my life and I'm 78 years old) all of the major brands have good sound but what interests me is what you can do with the piano (and I'm not talking about elaborate composing or arranger keyboards like the high end Nord, Korg etc.)
Is there any other app or software that will analyze and display the chords of a song you have stored on your computer or other smart device???
Hi
Hope you are well and keeping safe. Can you assist with the settings that I need to get the closest feel to an acoustic piano. I am not looking predominantly at the sound but want to ensure the action I use is correct. Sorry I don't think I am explaining myself very well. I don't want the P515 to play it for me, rather I want to play it as I would an acoustic.
Also the pedal settings using the 3 pedal system. I decided to do a factory reset with sad regret.
I use the P515 to allow me to practice late without disturbing the neighbours and are lucky to have a 1925 Steinway upright.
Look forward to receiving advice
Blessings to you
The date of your updated review is June 15,2024. What surprises me is that you don’t mention that the P-515 model has a follow up. In Europe the P-515 can’t be bought anymore because of the new model on the market. The P-525 has a lighter keyboard and some other improvements. It would be nice if you could add this new model to your review. Thanks for the outstanding reviews of all different models.